First-hand information:
Interview
with Prof. Dr. Joachim H. Ullrich.
About the person
Prof. Dr. Joachim Ullrich
Joachim Ullrich has been President of the Physikalisch-
Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB), Germany’s national me-
trology institute, based in Braunschweig since 2012. Prior
to that, he was was Director of the Max Planck Institute
for Nuclear Physics in Heidelberg and headed up the
Experimental Few-Particle Quantum Dynamics division.
He is internationally renowned not only as President of
the National Metrology Institute, but also as an expert
in quantum physics and experiments with free-electron
lasers carried out at DESY in Hamburg and the SLAC
National Accelerator Laboratory in Stanford, USA. He has
received numerous awards for his work, including the
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Award of the German Research
Foundation (DFG) and the Philip Morris Research Prize.
at the time. Researchers discovered that the earth’s rotation is
slowing down and highly variable and doesn’t always move at
the same speed, as had been the assumed for the existing
definition of time.
Are there also practical applications for atomic clocks?
Ullrich:
Atomic clocks are used by the positioning satellites for
the American GPS system or the Russian GLONASS, for example,
as well as for the first satellites of the European Galileo system.
These systems identify locations using signal running times
between the satellite and the earth and therefore need very
precise time specifications. There are also plans to use clocks
for measurement in space in the near future. This will allow
highprecision measurement of the relative position of two
satellites and their change can be used to fully plot the earth’s
gravitational field. With similar measurements on the earth and
even more accurate clocks, it may even be possible to detect
different mass distributions and thus trace mineral resources in
the future. These are the kinds of topics that we are currently
working on with other researchers in the QUEST excellence
cluster at the Leibniz University of Hanover.
Do the clocks on the satellites have the same complex
structures as the atomic clocks of the PTB?
Ullrich:
They work according to the same principle, but are
slightly more compact and don’t have to be quite as accurate.
The previous signal transmission results in minor deviations in
any case. Atomic clocks can be easily acquired nowadays for a
wide variety of uses. They cost between a few hundred and
around 100,000 euros for earth-based applications. For satellite
applications they are significantly more expensive – and thanks
to sophisticated technology can generally run for many years
without any maintenance.
You say that the technology is sophisticated. However,
can an atomic clock such as the one here at the Physikalisch-
Technische Bundesanstalt fail?
Ullrich:
Of course that is a possibility, but we have back-ups.
In our institute alone we have four primary atomic clocks tick-
ing away as our contribution to Coordinated Universal Time.
To provide the time for radio clocks, for example, which is
transmitted from Mainflingen, near Frankfurt, using a long-
wave transmitter, there are a further three atomic clocks on
site, which are regularly synchronised with our clocks.